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Disappointing turnout for election
RESIDENTS voted with their bottoms not their feet in Thursday's election as they chose the sofa over the ballot box.
Turnout across the 20 wards up for election was only 29.59 per cent - down more than four per cent from last year's figure of 33.8 per cent and significantly worse than the 2006 figure of 34.42 per cent and the 2004 showing of 32.7 per cent. Election manager Sally Sprason said: "The turnout was down on the 2004 equivalent - I'm not sure if that's to do with e-voting or if it's general apathy.
"We did a lot of promotion in Parks ward and you can see the result of that in the turnout, which was three per cent higher.
"It's difficult to pinpoint a reason why people don't vote.
"Generally if there are big issues people do come out to vote."
Sally said that she was pleased with how the night had gone.
She said: "There were a few hiccups with the postal voting, just because of the new system there, but in general things went quite smoothly."
In spite of gains for Labour in Central and the Tories in Parks, the make-up of the council remains the same as before the election.
The Conservatives have 43 seats to Labour's 12.
Stan Pajak's victory means that the Lib Dem's continue to have three seats, while David Glaholm, whose seat was not up for election, is the only independent.
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There are now five new councillors, after their victories on Thursday.
Labour's Jim Grant held the Western seat for his party, while Vera Tomlinson ensured that Abbey Meads remained a Conservative ward and Kevin Parry did the same in Dorcan.
Graham Cherry triumphed in Parks to win the former Labour seat for the Tories, while in a straight swap Junab Ali nabbed Central for Labour.
Barring defections or resignations this structure will remain until the next elections in 2010.
8:02pm Friday 2nd May 2008
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CommentPosted by: Justin Tomlinson, Taw Hill, Swindon on 11:24pm Fri 2 May 08
Technically the Council make-up did change as Owen Lister the retiring Councillor in Abbey Meads was an independent, so we went from 42 to 43, whilst the independents went from 2 to 1.
It was a shame there was no internet / telephone voting - for some reason the Labour Government (I believe Michael Wills may be the Jnr Minister responsible for this area, not 100% sure) didn't use this system this year.
Technically the Council make-up did change as Owen Lister the retiring Councillor in Abbey Meads was an independent, so we went from 42 to 43, whilst the independents went from 2 to 1.
It was a shame there was no internet / telephone voting - for some reason the Labour Government (I believe Michael Wills may be the Jnr Minister responsible for this area, not 100% sure) didn't use this system this year.
Posted by: logical, Swindon on 11:48pm Fri 2 May 08
What happened to on-line voting?
What happened to on-line voting?
Posted by: neilswindonuk, Swindon on 12:22am Sat 3 May 08
I voted for the first time in my life today! At 20 years of age... Why? Look around you.
I voted for the first time in my life today! At 20 years of age... Why? Look around you.
Posted by: S.LT, swindon on 12:45am Sat 3 May 08
I also voted for the first time in my life..personally I'm not suprised by the results and this is the reason why I haven't voted up until now. Only recently have I felt so strongly about politics and I wonder why?! ..It's disgusting.
I also voted for the first time in my life..personally I'm not suprised by the results and this is the reason why I haven't voted up until now. Only recently have I felt so strongly about politics and I wonder why?! ..It's disgusting.
Posted by: jack the rippler, east 17 on 12:49am Sat 3 May 08
RESIDENTS voted with their bottoms not their feet in Thursday's election as they chose the sofa over the ballot box.
Or maybe we were all too busy earning a living or we had to take the day of work to look after our children because the infant and primary school was shut to make way for these elections. How about holding elections on a Bank Holiday and not lose a days full wage? I do hope that the government will compensate for my loss of earnings. I didn't want to take the day off, I had no choice. And before anybody says that "it was your choice to have children". Well, who will vote in the future if we didn't? Immigrants?
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RESIDENTS voted with their bottoms not their feet in Thursday's election as they chose the sofa over the ballot box.
Or maybe we were all too busy earning a living or we had to take the day of work to look after our children because the infant and primary school was shut to make way for these elections. How about holding elections on a Bank Holiday and not lose a days full wage? I do hope that the government will compensate for my loss of earnings. I didn't want to take the day off, I had no choice. And before anybody says that "it was your choice to have children". Well, who will vote in the future if we didn't? Immigrants?
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Posted by: born and bred, Swindon on 2:18am Sat 3 May 08
I completly forgot the Election was on ,I was out looking after my grandson most of the day ,and came home tired ,I badly wanted to go to the Polls ,I noticed there was hardly any canvessing went on in my street in Central ward ,We had no Leaflets or people knocking ,I also noticed my daughter had no canvessers or leaflets left in the Stratton area ,,It was as though nothing was happening ,No wonder I forgot until it was to late ,
I completly forgot the Election was on ,I was out looking after my grandson most of the day ,and came home tired ,I badly wanted to go to the Polls ,I noticed there was hardly any canvessing went on in my street in Central ward ,We had no Leaflets or people knocking ,I also noticed my daughter had no canvessers or leaflets left in the Stratton area ,,It was as though nothing was happening ,No wonder I forgot until it was to late ,
Posted by: amlorusso, Swindon on 4:01am Sat 3 May 08
No I wouldn't say "It was your choice to have children" and I'm glad you voted.
But I would say this -there are no excuses. Anybody can choose not to vote, that's fine, that's their right. What isn't their right is to whine about the reason they didn't vote, especially the worst reason of all - it will make no difference.
No I wouldn't say "It was your choice to have children" and I'm glad you voted.
But I would say this -there are no excuses. Anybody can choose not to vote, that's fine, that's their right. What isn't their right is to whine about the reason they didn't vote, especially the worst reason of all - it will make no difference.
Posted by: Robert Feal-Martinez, Swindon on 8:10am Sat 3 May 08
amlorusso, I don't think Jack said they voted, just posed the question who would vote etc. As for excuses, although there wasn't 'e' voting, there were still postal votes. The turnout was low, and what we are left with is the same situation with an ineffective opposition and the Tory group newly envigoured to push through whatever they now wish. On a personal front, now that the full picture has emerged UKIP's achievement in Swindon pushing the Lib-Dems into 8, 4th places out of the 11 wards we stood in, takes on greater significance as it bucked the National trend.
amlorusso, I don't think Jack said they voted, just posed the question who would vote etc. As for excuses, although there wasn't 'e' voting, there were still postal votes. The turnout was low, and what we are left with is the same situation with an ineffective opposition and the Tory group newly envigoured to push through whatever they now wish. On a personal front, now that the full picture has emerged UKIP's achievement in Swindon pushing the Lib-Dems into 8, 4th places out of the 11 wards we stood in, takes on greater significance as it bucked the National trend.
Posted by: BWB, SWINDON on 8:16am Sat 3 May 08
[bold]J T R[/bold] Said
Or maybe we were all too busy earning a living
Who works 15 hours a day now?. The Ballot box was open 7.0Am-10Pm. No excuse at all for not voting.
Just sheer lazyness.
Bet they can find time and money to go to the pub.
Pathetic fools.
J T R Said
Or maybe we were all too busy earning a living
Who works 15 hours a day now?. The Ballot box was open 7.0Am-10Pm. No excuse at all for not voting.
Just sheer lazyness.
Bet they can find time and money to go to the pub.
Pathetic fools.
Posted by: Robert Feal-Martinez, Swindon on 9:04am Sat 3 May 08
BWB, some of us do, but I take your point. However I have always thought it odd that votes are not either at the weekend or bank holiday. After all voting shouldn't be seen as a 'job' but as an obligation. Australia's system seems to make ours positively old fashioned.
BWB, some of us do, but I take your point. However I have always thought it odd that votes are not either at the weekend or bank holiday. After all voting shouldn't be seen as a 'job' but as an obligation. Australia's system seems to make ours positively old fashioned.
Posted by: Phoenix One UK, Swindon on 9:49am Sat 3 May 08
Quote, "It's difficult to pinpoint a reason why people don't vote."
The reason people don't vote had been voiced over a number of sites. That is, any vote is a wasted vote.
The people have no confidence in any of the Parties. Note the Tories did not win. Labour lost.
Quote, "It's difficult to pinpoint a reason why people don't vote."
The reason people don't vote had been voiced over a number of sites. That is, any vote is a wasted vote.
The people have no confidence in any of the Parties. Note the Tories did not win. Labour lost.
Posted by: Robert Feal-Martinez, Swindon on 10:51am Sat 3 May 08
Phoenix One UK, perhaps then you should alter your focus, because if the public don't, in two years time, you won't need to bother. The EU will really control your life. That is a certainty if the Reform Treaty goes through.
Phoenix One UK, perhaps then you should alter your focus, because if the public don't, in two years time, you won't need to bother. The EU will really control your life. That is a certainty if the Reform Treaty goes through.
Posted by: Mick out West, West Swindon on 11:07am Sat 3 May 08
If you do not vote that is your right, but if you could not be bothered, which is probably the reason for most non-voters, don't moan afterwards when things do not go your way. Because you could have changed who represents you locally.
If you do not vote that is your right, but if you could not be bothered, which is probably the reason for most non-voters, don't moan afterwards when things do not go your way. Because you could have changed who represents you locally.
Posted by: Swindonbloke, Swindon on 11:19am Sat 3 May 08
I voted for the first time ever as well. I wasn't going to but was basically disgusted by the leaflets left by Labour and the Cons. The Lib Dems do a great job in my area, I've contacted them before and they have always helped, they keep residents fully up to date with what they are doing in the area with monthly leaflets. A week before the elections a labour and Con leaflet dropped through the door, not one mentioned what they can do for the area and just blatantly slagged off the other. So I made an effort this year to vote and keep the Lib Dems in my area, Labour and the Cons have shown me nothing more than how they can slag off the other parties. It's pathetic! No wonder this country is in the state it's in!
I voted for the first time ever as well. I wasn't going to but was basically disgusted by the leaflets left by Labour and the Cons. The Lib Dems do a great job in my area, I've contacted them before and they have always helped, they keep residents fully up to date with what they are doing in the area with monthly leaflets. A week before the elections a labour and Con leaflet dropped through the door, not one mentioned what they can do for the area and just blatantly slagged off the other. So I made an effort this year to vote and keep the Lib Dems in my area, Labour and the Cons have shown me nothing more than how they can slag off the other parties. It's pathetic! No wonder this country is in the state it's in!
Posted by: Robert Feal-Martinez, Swindon on 11:25am Sat 3 May 08
Swindonbloke, what is sad in my view is that the type of negatively shown by them a. allowed the Conservatives to retain the seats, b. allow Labour to split votes that may have gone to either the Lid-Dems, or more likely to UKIP given what happened on the night.
Swindonbloke, what is sad in my view is that the type of negatively shown by them a. allowed the Conservatives to retain the seats, b. allow Labour to split votes that may have gone to either the Lid-Dems, or more likely to UKIP given what happened on the night.
Posted by: Donkey, Swindon on 12:03pm Sat 3 May 08
If the system was like this:
[italic]On leaving the Polling Station, each elector collects a ten pound note[/italic] ... in these days of money, money, money ... the turnout would immediately double! The people of this country will do almost anything for a quick buck ... let's face it, why did so many Labour supporters not bother to vote ... because they feel they are not making as much as the well-healed are at the moment in the UK, and of course they are quite right!
Many Conservatives seem to vote out of principle ... Labour supporters, opposite to what has been said about my traditional voting trends, are not quite so loyal, even when their party needs them.
Shame on you Labour supporters who could not be bothered ... well done to the Tories who ALWAYS support their unfaltering beliefs, regardless of whether their party have anything to offer or not!
If the system was like this:
On leaving the Polling Station, each elector collects a ten pound note ... in these days of money, money, money ... the turnout would immediately double! The people of this country will do almost anything for a quick buck ... let's face it, why did so many Labour supporters not bother to vote ... because they feel they are not making as much as the well-healed are at the moment in the UK, and of course they are quite right!
Many Conservatives seem to vote out of principle ... Labour supporters, opposite to what has been said about my traditional voting trends, are not quite so loyal, even when their party needs them.
Shame on you Labour supporters who could not be bothered ... well done to the Tories who ALWAYS support their unfaltering beliefs, regardless of whether their party have anything to offer or not!
Posted by: Robin Harris, Swindon on 12:50pm Sat 3 May 08
Isn't it funny that Mugabe has the support of 45% of his people and we want to get him out yet Brown and Labour only have 24% support and just plods on.
Isn't it funny that Mugabe has the support of 45% of his people and we want to get him out yet Brown and Labour only have 24% support and just plods on.
Posted by: AllyD, swindon on 12:57pm Sat 3 May 08
Yet again Justin is the first person to comment on a forum about the elections. At 11.30 on a Friday night I think it is an indication the man does not have a life.
Yet again Justin is the first person to comment on a forum about the elections. At 11.30 on a Friday night I think it is an indication the man does not have a life.
Posted by: Frontier(s) on 4:47pm Sat 3 May 08
[quote]I noticed there was hardly any canvessing went on in my street in Central ward ,We had no Leaflets or people knocking[/quote]
That particular ward had already been won in a slightly different manner.
[quote]Donkey wrote:
let's face it, why did so many Labour supporters not bother to vote[/quote]
Hilarious. Labour get utterly destroyed at the polls yet people still pretend it was because all the Labour voterd stayed at home!
That just shows the total 'head in the sand' mentality of a party that nobody in this country wants anything to do with.
Labour came a poor third, nationally, and polled almost half what most of the Tory councillors did in nearly all Swindon wards.
Labour supporters should look very closely at the type of wards they win in these days - it's quite disturbing when you think about the implications.
I noticed there was hardly any canvessing went on in my street in Central ward ,We had no Leaflets or people knocking
That particular ward had already been won in a slightly different manner.
Donkey wrote:
let's face it, why did so many Labour supporters not bother to vote
Hilarious. Labour get utterly destroyed at the polls yet people still pretend it was because all the Labour voterd stayed at home!
That just shows the total 'head in the sand' mentality of a party that nobody in this country wants anything to do with.
Labour came a poor third, nationally, and polled almost half what most of the Tory councillors did in nearly all Swindon wards.
Labour supporters should look very closely at the type of wards they win in these days - it's quite disturbing when you think about the implications.
Posted by: Donkey, Swindon on 6:28pm Sat 3 May 08
Big Mac (Frontier)writes ... more racial insinuations ...
"Labour supporters should look very closely at the type of wards they win in these days - it's quite disturbing when you think about the implications."
Are you some kind of BNP person in disguise?
I live in Western and we have THREE Labour Councillors and there is hardly a high foreign presence here!
Exactly what you are implying is quite clear, and sadly, it shows a very poor attitude towards one's fellow human beings.
The Conservatives are just as keen to attract votes from any quarter ... in fact they even had a plumber as a candidate in an unlikely area ... and he won ... looking like an ordinary sort of person ... no suit and tie being worn as I recollect?
Let me guess ... the next thing you will suggest is a class factor ... Tories win Lawns because there are fine upstanding, right wing, pure white, wealthy individuals living there!
Big Mac (Frontier)writes ... more racial insinuations ...
"Labour supporters should look very closely at the type of wards they win in these days - it's quite disturbing when you think about the implications."
Are you some kind of BNP person in disguise?
I live in Western and we have THREE Labour Councillors and there is hardly a high foreign presence here!
Exactly what you are implying is quite clear, and sadly, it shows a very poor attitude towards one's fellow human beings.
The Conservatives are just as keen to attract votes from any quarter ... in fact they even had a plumber as a candidate in an unlikely area ... and he won ... looking like an ordinary sort of person ... no suit and tie being worn as I recollect?
Let me guess ... the next thing you will suggest is a class factor ... Tories win Lawns because there are fine upstanding, right wing, pure white, wealthy individuals living there!
Posted by: doug@homefarm, SN1 on 6:52pm Sat 3 May 08
I thought Big Mac was quiet lately Donkey, and Frontier(s) is a new kid on the block.
There is no excuse for not voting if you want to vote (apart from the obvious, sickness or accident on polling day) we all new it was May 1st. My daughter in London is permanantly in a wheel chair and her polling station is not very accesable, and she also has a demanding job. She got a postal vote, anyone can do this!
I thought Big Mac was quiet lately Donkey, and Frontier(s) is a new kid on the block.
There is no excuse for not voting if you want to vote (apart from the obvious, sickness or accident on polling day) we all new it was May 1st. My daughter in London is permanantly in a wheel chair and her polling station is not very accesable, and she also has a demanding job. She got a postal vote, anyone can do this!
Posted by: Robert Feal-Martinez, Swindon on 7:14pm Sat 3 May 08
Talking of postal, how come we have not seen the breakdown of these. As I recall they weren't even mentioned at the count. You will probably find now we will have to submit a request under the freedom of information act to find, how many and who they voted for. Donkey I am certainly not going to suggest anything but I have to say the only group of Labour people at the Central counting station were Asian. Simply pointing out a fact.
Talking of postal, how come we have not seen the breakdown of these. As I recall they weren't even mentioned at the count. You will probably find now we will have to submit a request under the freedom of information act to find, how many and who they voted for. Donkey I am certainly not going to suggest anything but I have to say the only group of Labour people at the Central counting station were Asian. Simply pointing out a fact.
Posted by: doug@homefarm, SN1 on 7:25pm Sat 3 May 08
Unless the rules have changed RFM since I was the election agent for the CPGB, the only people allowed into the count were the candidate, spouse/partner and two supporters. Given that the the candidate for central was asian, it would follow that is the only people you saw.
Unless the rules have changed RFM since I was the election agent for the CPGB, the only people allowed into the count were the candidate, spouse/partner and two supporters. Given that the the candidate for central was asian, it would follow that is the only people you saw.
Posted by: Robert Feal-Martinez, Swindon on 7:44pm Sat 3 May 08
Put it this way doug, I there were probably a group of at least ten.
Put it this way doug, I there were probably a group of at least ten.
Posted by: doug@homefarm, SN1 on 7:58pm Sat 3 May 08
Well maybe the rules have changed, but you should know how many are allowed into the 'count'.
Well maybe the rules have changed, but you should know how many are allowed into the 'count'.
Posted by: doug@homefarm, SN1 on 7:59pm Sat 3 May 08
I take it your pubs not too busy at present RFM!
I take it your pubs not too busy at present RFM!
Posted by: Donkey, Swindon on 8:06pm Sat 3 May 08
Of course RFM ... maybe we should indicate ... as I said earlier ...
Fine, upstanding, pure white, wealthy individuals were spotted surrounding the Lawns and Abbeymeads and so on, at their respective counting positions.
I'm not exactly racialist, we have to live with a modern day situation, and I can't go along with the line of thought from the earlier correspondent, it's racially motivated and not really anything more than an Enoch Powell type of talk.
Incidentally, the postal votes were not so broadly encouraged this time around, I felt? Doug's daughter has proven that her democratic right should not be impeded and my very best wishes to her.
All the same, back to track, I really do feel that many of those who abstained have very short and selective memories. This Government may have over-taxed in some areas, but the distribution of top-up monies to those who really need it is to be commended. The other lot have NEVER given to the poorly paid or limited income people of this country.
Taxation allows countries to function ... ALL Governments HAVE to do it.
On a local note ... and that is the crux of the matter ... our Tory levied Council Tax level is not so hot when one breaks it down into the fact that 42% of it annually is not needed ... [bold]Quote, The Conservatives[/bold] ... yet they still charge us all what they despised Labour for!
Of course RFM ... maybe we should indicate ... as I said earlier ...
Fine, upstanding, pure white, wealthy individuals were spotted surrounding the Lawns and Abbeymeads and so on, at their respective counting positions.
I'm not exactly racialist, we have to live with a modern day situation, and I can't go along with the line of thought from the earlier correspondent, it's racially motivated and not really anything more than an Enoch Powell type of talk.
Incidentally, the postal votes were not so broadly encouraged this time around, I felt? Doug's daughter has proven that her democratic right should not be impeded and my very best wishes to her.
All the same, back to track, I really do feel that many of those who abstained have very short and selective memories. This Government may have over-taxed in some areas, but the distribution of top-up monies to those who really need it is to be commended. The other lot have NEVER given to the poorly paid or limited income people of this country.
Taxation allows countries to function ... ALL Governments HAVE to do it.
On a local note ... and that is the crux of the matter ... our Tory levied Council Tax level is not so hot when one breaks it down into the fact that 42% of it annually is not needed ...
Quote, The Conservatives ... yet they still charge us all what they despised Labour for!
Posted by: Robert Feal-Martinez, Swindon on 8:17pm Sat 3 May 08
Doug, we are quite busy but I have this ability to be multi-tasking, one learns that when one doesn't have a pay master and a nine to five job, as I am sure your know.
Doug, we are quite busy but I have this ability to be multi-tasking, one learns that when one doesn't have a pay master and a nine to five job, as I am sure your know.
Posted by: doug@homefarm, SN1 on 8:24pm Sat 3 May 08
[quote][bold]Robert Feal-Martinez[/bold] wrote:
Doug, we are quite busy but I have this ability to be multi-tasking, one learns that when one doesn't have a pay master and a nine to five job, as I am sure your know.[/quote] Fair point!
Robert Feal-Martinez wrote:
Doug, we are quite busy but I have this ability to be multi-tasking, one learns that when one doesn't have a pay master and a nine to five job, as I am sure your know.
Fair point!
Posted by: jo-ent, Swindon on 9:02pm Sat 3 May 08
There are NO excuses for not voting. None whatsoever. Polls are open 7am to 10pm, but if that's not enough anyone can now get a postal vote.
Of course it is anybody's right not to vote. But if you don't vote, then don't ever EVER complain about council tax, recycling, parking, traffic, litter, the canal, graffiti, anti-social behaviour, over-development or dog pooh on the pavement. You have given up your right to do so.
And before you say 'I pay my taxes...'. No. That's not good enough. You should vote for the people who decide how to pay your taxes. If you don't, you have no right to complain about how they're spent. No excuses.
In summary: Didn't vote? Don't complain. End of.
There are NO excuses for not voting. None whatsoever. Polls are open 7am to 10pm, but if that's not enough anyone can now get a postal vote.
Of course it is anybody's right not to vote. But if you don't vote, then don't ever EVER complain about council tax, recycling, parking, traffic, litter, the canal, graffiti, anti-social behaviour, over-development or dog pooh on the pavement. You have given up your right to do so.
And before you say 'I pay my taxes...'. No. That's not good enough. You should vote for the people who decide how to pay your taxes. If you don't, you have no right to complain about how they're spent. No excuses.
In summary: Didn't vote? Don't complain. End of.
Posted by: P S Altery, Swindon on 11:06pm Sat 3 May 08
[quote][bold]Donkey[/bold] wrote:
Big Mac (Frontier)writes ... more racial insinuations ... "Labour supporters should look very closely at the type of wards they win in these days - it's quite disturbing when you think about the implications." Are you some kind of BNP person in disguise? I live in Western and we have THREE Labour Councillors and there is hardly a high foreign presence here! Exactly what you are implying is quite clear, and sadly, it shows a very poor attitude towards one's fellow human beings. The Conservatives are just as keen to attract votes from any quarter ... in fact they even had a plumber as a candidate in an unlikely area ... and he won ... looking like an ordinary sort of person ... no suit and tie being worn as I recollect? Let me guess ... the next thing you will suggest is a class factor ... Tories win Lawns because there are fine upstanding, right wing, pure white, wealthy individuals living there![/quote] Sorry Eyore, your party got thrashed because it does not listen. There comes a time when every Labour Govt gets exposed for it's
gross mismanagement. For Gordon Brown read Jim Callaghan. Sorry sunshine, it's over for Labour in England, and probably, and thankfully for good
Donkey wrote:
Big Mac (Frontier)writes ... more racial insinuations ... "Labour supporters should look very closely at the type of wards they win in these days - it's quite disturbing when you think about the implications." Are you some kind of BNP person in disguise? I live in Western and we have THREE Labour Councillors and there is hardly a high foreign presence here! Exactly what you are implying is quite clear, and sadly, it shows a very poor attitude towards one's fellow human beings. The Conservatives are just as keen to attract votes from any quarter ... in fact they even had a plumber as a candidate in an unlikely area ... and he won ... looking like an ordinary sort of person ... no suit and tie being worn as I recollect? Let me guess ... the next thing you will suggest is a class factor ... Tories win Lawns because there are fine upstanding, right wing, pure white, wealthy individuals living there!
Sorry Eyore, your party got thrashed because it does not listen. There comes a time when every Labour Govt gets exposed for it's
gross mismanagement. For Gordon Brown read Jim Callaghan. Sorry sunshine, it's over for Labour in England, and probably, and thankfully for good
Posted by: Frontier(s) on 12:54am Sun 4 May 08
Donkey, my comments are no more or less 'racialist' (you sound like Ali G!) than Labour putting up the head of the Bangladeshi association in an area where the majority of Bangladeshis live.
You want to talk cynicism? Talk to the Labour candidate in the Central ward. While you are at it, as you clearly don't know how it works, you might like to read up on how 'democracy' works amongst people from other cultures. It's not quite a case of everyone voting for who they prefer.
Mind you, given the absolute drubbing your beloved Labour/Stalinist party just received, it doesn't surprise me in the slightest that you're so quick to throw the 'racism' card around - like a little child who didn't get his own way.
How very sad. How very Labour.
Thankfully, your party - and it's silly supporters - are about to be consigned to the wilderness once more.
As the rest of us look on, smile and cheer.
Don't hurry back now!
Donkey, my comments are no more or less 'racialist' (you sound like Ali G!) than Labour putting up the head of the Bangladeshi association in an area where the majority of Bangladeshis live.
You want to talk cynicism? Talk to the Labour candidate in the Central ward. While you are at it, as you clearly don't know how it works, you might like to read up on how 'democracy' works amongst people from other cultures. It's not quite a case of everyone voting for who they prefer.
Mind you, given the absolute drubbing your beloved Labour/Stalinist party just received, it doesn't surprise me in the slightest that you're so quick to throw the 'racism' card around - like a little child who didn't get his own way.
How very sad. How very Labour.
Thankfully, your party - and it's silly supporters - are about to be consigned to the wilderness once more.
As the rest of us look on, smile and cheer.
Don't hurry back now!
Posted by: jack the rippler, east 17 on 1:58am Sun 4 May 08
[quote][bold]BWB[/bold] wrote:
[bold]J T R[/bold] Said Or maybe we were all too busy earning a living Who works 15 hours a day now?. The Ballot box was open 7.0Am-10Pm. No excuse at all for not voting. Just sheer lazyness. Bet they can find time and money to go to the pub. Pathetic fools. [/quote] I've only just logged in. And had a look at recent comments posted toward my own comment. I would have joined in earlier with my own personal views but I was working. I could not work on Thursday (due to the elections) and I could not work the Thursday prior (due to a teachers strike). This is why I work a 16 hr day on a Saturday, to make up for my loss of earnings during the past two weeks. Thank the government for May Day, I may be able to have a couple of extra hours in my pit.
As for pathetic fools. Don't even consider to class me. Your the one who taps in at 8:16 am having a rant. Was it a bad night last night? or havn't you met your good friend reality?
Some people get on with life, no matter what it throws at them.
If your living on the edge, you're taking up too much room.
What have you got a doctors note for? Stress or a bad back?
No! Your just scared of a bit of hard graft.
As the saying goes "don't bring your own troubles to work". Have some backbone and fight your inner demons. We can get through this together (but not in a gay way).
BWB wrote:
J T R Said Or maybe we were all too busy earning a living Who works 15 hours a day now?. The Ballot box was open 7.0Am-10Pm. No excuse at all for not voting. Just sheer lazyness. Bet they can find time and money to go to the pub. Pathetic fools.
I've only just logged in. And had a look at recent comments posted toward my own comment. I would have joined in earlier with my own personal views but I was working. I could not work on Thursday (due to the elections) and I could not work the Thursday prior (due to a teachers strike). This is why I work a 16 hr day on a Saturday, to make up for my loss of earnings during the past two weeks. Thank the government for May Day, I may be able to have a couple of extra hours in my pit.
As for pathetic fools. Don't even consider to class me. Your the one who taps in at 8:16 am having a rant. Was it a bad night last night? or havn't you met your good friend reality?
Some people get on with life, no matter what it throws at them.
If your living on the edge, you're taking up too much room.
What have you got a doctors note for? Stress or a bad back?
No! Your just scared of a bit of hard graft.
As the saying goes "don't bring your own troubles to work". Have some backbone and fight your inner demons. We can get through this together (but not in a gay way).
Posted by: PeeGee, Swindon on 8:39am Sun 4 May 08
If it was anything like my ward, I am not surprised. The Tory is useless, he has no concept of local issues. Labour pushed two photocopies through my door slating the Tories but with no policies of their own. Also the candidate is the full time Unite rep at Honda who wants to strike because people cannot eat while operating machinery. He was also rubbish as a councillor years ago. The Liberals didn't even put a leaflet through the door. Oh, and UKIP (one dimensional right wing nutters). I did vote, but only out of a sense of duty. In retrospect, I should have spoiled my ballot paper.
If it was anything like my ward, I am not surprised. The Tory is useless, he has no concept of local issues. Labour pushed two photocopies through my door slating the Tories but with no policies of their own. Also the candidate is the full time Unite rep at Honda who wants to strike because people cannot eat while operating machinery. He was also rubbish as a councillor years ago. The Liberals didn't even put a leaflet through the door. Oh, and UKIP (one dimensional right wing nutters). I did vote, but only out of a sense of duty. In retrospect, I should have spoiled my ballot paper.
Posted by: Robert Feal-Martinez, Swindon on 9:25am Sun 4 May 08
PeeGee, I think perhaps it is you who could be described as one dimensional, if you haven't bothered to look at UKIP's full 'policy documents'. It's quite easy you know you go to UKIP.org, but I guess like a lot of people it is easier to believe the media than find out for yourself. I am more than happy to Educate you. Better still why not come to one of our meetings. Swindon UKIP are far from 'nutters', we are the only group that is telling the truth over the EU and it's affect on the local community. We have two PPC's for the Conservatives that believe there should be a referendum on the Reform Treaty which is good, and I applaud them for that. However they both know that Cameron will not allow a retrospective Referendum if the Tories are elected, and yet they are still prepared to stand for election. Just a little dishonest don't you think.
PeeGee, I think perhaps it is you who could be described as one dimensional, if you haven't bothered to look at UKIP's full 'policy documents'. It's quite easy you know you go to UKIP.org, but I guess like a lot of people it is easier to believe the media than find out for yourself. I am more than happy to Educate you. Better still why not come to one of our meetings. Swindon UKIP are far from 'nutters', we are the only group that is telling the truth over the EU and it's affect on the local community. We have two PPC's for the Conservatives that believe there should be a referendum on the Reform Treaty which is good, and I applaud them for that. However they both know that Cameron will not allow a retrospective Referendum if the Tories are elected, and yet they are still prepared to stand for election. Just a little dishonest don't you think.
Posted by: BWB, SWINDON on 10:08am Sun 4 May 08
[quote][bold]jack the rippler[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]BWB[/bold] wrote: [bold]J T R[/bold] Said Or maybe we were all too busy earning a living Who works 15 hours a day now?. The Ballot box was open 7.0Am-10Pm. No excuse at all for not voting. Just sheer lazyness. Bet they can find time and money to go to the pub. Pathetic fools. [/quote] I've only just logged in. And had a look at recent comments posted toward my own comment. I would have joined in earlier with my own personal views but I was working. I could not work on Thursday (due to the elections) and I could not work the Thursday prior (due to a teachers strike). This is why I work a 16 hr day on a Saturday, to make up for my loss of earnings during the past two weeks. Thank the government for May Day, I may be able to have a couple of extra hours in my pit. As for pathetic fools. Don't even consider to class me. Your the one who taps in at 8:16 am having a rant. Was it a bad night last night? or havn't you met your good friend reality? Some people get on with life, no matter what it throws at them. If your living on the edge, you're taking up too much room. What have you got a doctors note for? Stress or a bad back? No! Your just scared of a bit of hard graft. As the saying goes "don't bring your own troubles to work". Have some backbone and fight your inner demons. We can get through this together (but not in a gay way).[/quote] [bold]Your Diatribe was
nonsensicle.
And hardly worth dignifying with a reply.[/bold]
Posted by: jack the rippler, east 17 on 1:58am today.
Bit early Rippler.
jack the rippler wrote:
BWB wrote: J T R Said Or maybe we were all too busy earning a living Who works 15 hours a day now?. The Ballot box was open 7.0Am-10Pm. No excuse at all for not voting. Just sheer lazyness. Bet they can find time and money to go to the pub. Pathetic fools.
I've only just logged in. And had a look at recent comments posted toward my own comment. I would have joined in earlier with my own personal views but I was working. I could not work on Thursday (due to the elections) and I could not work the Thursday prior (due to a teachers strike). This is why I work a 16 hr day on a Saturday, to make up for my loss of earnings during the past two weeks. Thank the government for May Day, I may be able to have a couple of extra hours in my pit. As for pathetic fools. Don't even consider to class me. Your the one who taps in at 8:16 am having a rant. Was it a bad night last night? or havn't you met your good friend reality? Some people get on with life, no matter what it throws at them. If your living on the edge, you're taking up too much room. What have you got a doctors note for? Stress or a bad back? No! Your just scared of a bit of hard graft. As the saying goes "don't bring your own troubles to work". Have some backbone and fight your inner demons. We can get through this together (but not in a gay way).
Your Diatribe was
nonsensicle.
And hardly worth dignifying with a reply.
Posted by: jack the rippler, east 17 on 1:58am today.
Bit early Rippler.
Posted by: I Too Could Be a Councillor, Swindon on 1:41pm Sun 4 May 08
If people can't be bothered to vote, because........
It won't make any difference
There's nobody worth voting for
All councillors are out of touch....
At least make the trip to the polloing booth, and write your feelings on the voting slip. All councillors are ..... (whatever?). The paper is then counted as a destroyed paper (or a vote for a better local government).The percentage of voters is then higher, you've released your feelings, and the people that gave their lives for our right to vote are not undermined.
By contrast, not bothering to vote simply reassures the smug politicians that they can walk all over us, and we won't bother about it
If people can't be bothered to vote, because........
It won't make any difference
There's nobody worth voting for
All councillors are out of touch....
At least make the trip to the polloing booth, and write your feelings on the voting slip. All councillors are ..... (whatever?). The paper is then counted as a destroyed paper (or a vote for a better local government).The percentage of voters is then higher, you've released your feelings, and the people that gave their lives for our right to vote are not undermined.
By contrast, not bothering to vote simply reassures the smug politicians that they can walk all over us, and we won't bother about it
Posted by: PeeGee, Swindon on 2:18pm Sun 4 May 08
[quote][bold]Robert Feal-Martinez[/bold] wrote:
PeeGee, I think perhaps it is you who could be described as one dimensional, if you haven't bothered to look at UKIP's full 'policy documents'. It's quite easy you know you go to UKIP.org, but I guess like a lot of people it is easier to believe the media than find out for yourself. I am more than happy to Educate you. Better still why not come to one of our meetings. Swindon UKIP are far from 'nutters', we are the only group that is telling the truth over the EU and it's affect on the local community. We have two PPC's for the Conservatives that believe there should be a referendum on the Reform Treaty which is good, and I applaud them for that. However they both know that Cameron will not allow a retrospective Referendum if the Tories are elected, and yet they are still prepared to stand for election. Just a little dishonest don't you think. [/quote] EU, Reform Treaty, Blah, Blah, Blah. Overall, percentage of votes in Swindon? (Don't distort figures by using that 3rd place claim). Overall percentage nationally? Overall percentage in the London mayoral elections? A bunch of right wing dissendents with no broad agenda (even after reading the drivel on the website). The truth is that UKIP will only ever gain through the apathy of the electorate. Low turnouts are their best friend at election time.
RFM, let me guess. You are ex-Conservative? Dismayed with centrist policies? Needed a home for stronger right wing beliefs?
A recent poll asked peoples priorities when voting. Eurpoe was not even on the list. Of course you could just carry on educating the ignorant masses, such as myself. But that's a little self-righteous (you may call it saving the nation).
Robert Feal-Martinez wrote:
PeeGee, I think perhaps it is you who could be described as one dimensional, if you haven't bothered to look at UKIP's full 'policy documents'. It's quite easy you know you go to UKIP.org, but I guess like a lot of people it is easier to believe the media than find out for yourself. I am more than happy to Educate you. Better still why not come to one of our meetings. Swindon UKIP are far from 'nutters', we are the only group that is telling the truth over the EU and it's affect on the local community. We have two PPC's for the Conservatives that believe there should be a referendum on the Reform Treaty which is good, and I applaud them for that. However they both know that Cameron will not allow a retrospective Referendum if the Tories are elected, and yet they are still prepared to stand for election. Just a little dishonest don't you think.
EU, Reform Treaty, Blah, Blah, Blah. Overall, percentage of votes in Swindon? (Don't distort figures by using that 3rd place claim). Overall percentage nationally? Overall percentage in the London mayoral elections? A bunch of right wing dissendents with no broad agenda (even after reading the drivel on the website). The truth is that UKIP will only ever gain through the apathy of the electorate. Low turnouts are their best friend at election time.
RFM, let me guess. You are ex-Conservative? Dismayed with centrist policies? Needed a home for stronger right wing beliefs?
A recent poll asked peoples priorities when voting. Eurpoe was not even on the list. Of course you could just carry on educating the ignorant masses, such as myself. But that's a little self-righteous (you may call it saving the nation).
Posted by: doug@homefarm, SN1 on 5:07pm Sun 4 May 08
'Like so many of your kind, ie, white, middle-class, you have no idea what racism is. You simply hijack a serious social problem to make cheap, miguided jibes and try to steal the moral high ground. Ironically, it just makes you look dim, exploitative and actually rather unpleasant.'
Well Big Mac, you've just described yourself to a 'T', and if Donkey retired (through ill health I believe) at 53 whats your point? or are you jealous that you have to keep working?
'Like so many of your kind, ie, white, middle-class, you have no idea what racism is. You simply hijack a serious social problem to make cheap, miguided jibes and try to steal the moral high ground. Ironically, it just makes you look dim, exploitative and actually rather unpleasant.'
Well Big Mac, you've just described yourself to a 'T', and if Donkey retired (through ill health I believe) at 53 whats your point? or are you jealous that you have to keep working?
Posted by: Donkey, Swindon on 5:19pm Sun 4 May 08
Hello Doug, I'm afraid B Mc doesn't like me one bit ... but that's his prerogative.
His description of me is rather a distance away from the reality, but whatever.
The insinuations were very clear and the implications were driven by a rather nasty comparison, I feel?
Anyway, a Bank Holiday tomorrow, let's hope the sun shines on [italic]the righteous![/italic]
Hello Doug, I'm afraid B Mc doesn't like me one bit ... but that's his prerogative.
His description of me is rather a distance away from the reality, but whatever.
The insinuations were very clear and the implications were driven by a rather nasty comparison, I feel?
Anyway, a Bank Holiday tomorrow, let's hope the sun shines on
the righteous! Posted by: Robert Feal-Martinez, Swindon on 5:36pm Sun 4 May 08
Peegee, You will be then surprised to learn then that our defence policy has been widely applauded by the Armed Services, that our Law and Order package has been welcomed by serving police officers, I could go on but you clearly are not prepared to even acknowledge that the EU affects all our lives both locally and Nationally. I am sure though in 2 or 3 years time when we are told that the police can come and arrest UK citizens and take us back to mainland Europe without warrant. You will be one saying, 'how could this have been allowed to happen', because people like you never bothered to find out the truth, that was there for enquiring minds to see. And yes I was a former Conservative, which is no secret on these threads, I stopped supporting them when the 'Blair' wannabee Cameron was elected. He has turned out to be all I feared, shallow, two faced, and deceitful. He says one thing and does another.Councillor Sammels questioned my comments that Cameron didn't think Boris would win, which has now been flagged up in the Sundays, he wanted a fall guy and unfortunately for him got Boris who convinced the people of London he could do the job. Now Boris is the most Powerful Tory in the land.
Peegee, You will be then surprised to learn then that our defence policy has been widely applauded by the Armed Services, that our Law and Order package has been welcomed by serving police officers, I could go on but you clearly are not prepared to even acknowledge that the EU affects all our lives both locally and Nationally. I am sure though in 2 or 3 years time when we are told that the police can come and arrest UK citizens and take us back to mainland Europe without warrant. You will be one saying, 'how could this have been allowed to happen', because people like you never bothered to find out the truth, that was there for enquiring minds to see. And yes I was a former Conservative, which is no secret on these threads, I stopped supporting them when the 'Blair' wannabee Cameron was elected. He has turned out to be all I feared, shallow, two faced, and deceitful. He says one thing and does another.Councillor Sammels questioned my comments that Cameron didn't think Boris would win, which has now been flagged up in the Sundays, he wanted a fall guy and unfortunately for him got Boris who convinced the people of London he could do the job. Now Boris is the most Powerful Tory in the land.
Posted by: Frontier(s) on 5:43pm Sun 4 May 08
[quote][bold]doug@homefarm[/bold] wrote:
'Like so many of your kind, ie, white, middle-class, you have no idea what racism is. You simply hijack a serious social problem to make cheap, miguided jibes and try to steal the moral high ground. Ironically, it just makes you look dim, exploitative and actually rather unpleasant.' Well Big Mac, you've just described yourself to a 'T', and if Donkey retired (through ill health I believe) at 53 whats your point? or are you jealous that you have to keep working? [/quote] Doug, I expected a little bit better from you than:
"No, YOU are"
Although, on second thoughts, no, I didn't really.
The point about retiring at 53 is that it makes a person's comments about supporting the working classes slightly ironic. No doubt you are unable to see that though.
It wasn't me who immediately played the race card, it was, as usual, Donkey. A man who constantly and unceasingly attempts to 'win' his argument by calling anyone who disagrees with him a 'racist' or 'nasty'.
A person is only acceptable to Donkey if they fall in line with the red agenda that he does. That he cannot see his own, astounding, bigotry just highlights the problem even further.
I have no idea why I'm pointing this out to somebody who has Stalin as a political hero. Talk about misguided.
doug@homefarm wrote:
'Like so many of your kind, ie, white, middle-class, you have no idea what racism is. You simply hijack a serious social problem to make cheap, miguided jibes and try to steal the moral high ground. Ironically, it just makes you look dim, exploitative and actually rather unpleasant.' Well Big Mac, you've just described yourself to a 'T', and if Donkey retired (through ill health I believe) at 53 whats your point? or are you jealous that you have to keep working?
Doug, I expected a little bit better from you than:
"No, YOU are"
Although, on second thoughts, no, I didn't really.
The point about retiring at 53 is that it makes a person's comments about supporting the working classes slightly ironic. No doubt you are unable to see that though.
It wasn't me who immediately played the race card, it was, as usual, Donkey. A man who constantly and unceasingly attempts to 'win' his argument by calling anyone who disagrees with him a 'racist' or 'nasty'.
A person is only acceptable to Donkey if they fall in line with the red agenda that he does. That he cannot see his own, astounding, bigotry just highlights the problem even further.
I have no idea why I'm pointing this out to somebody who has Stalin as a political hero. Talk about misguided.
Posted by: Frontier(s) on 5:46pm Sun 4 May 08
Oh, forgot to mention, I notice Donkey slipping in his other usual debating tactic, playing the victim.
Donkey, for the record, I don't even know you, so how can I possibly dislike you?
I feel sorry for you, but that's something different altogether.
Oh, forgot to mention, I notice Donkey slipping in his other usual debating tactic, playing the victim.
Donkey, for the record, I don't even know you, so how can I possibly dislike you?
I feel sorry for you, but that's something different altogether.
Posted by: Frontier(s) on 6:10pm Sun 4 May 08
[quote]Anyway, a Bank Holiday tomorrow, let's hope the sun shines on the righteous![/quote]
I'm currently enjoying Boris beating Commie Ken and Labour getting the kicking they so richly deserve from the exceptionally sunny and hot climes of Northern San Francisco.
The sun's been shining down on me [italic]all week long[/italic] my friend.
Anyway, a Bank Holiday tomorrow, let's hope the sun shines on the righteous!
I'm currently enjoying Boris beating Commie Ken and Labour getting the kicking they so richly deserve from the exceptionally sunny and hot climes of Northern San Francisco.
The sun's been shining down on me
all week long my friend.
Posted by: P S Altery, Swindon on 2:39am Mon 5 May 08
[quote][bold]doug@homefarm[/bold] wrote:
'Like so many of your kind, ie, white, middle-class, you have no idea what racism is. You simply hijack a serious social problem to make cheap, miguided jibes and try to steal the moral high ground. Ironically, it just makes you look dim, exploitative and actually rather unpleasant.' Well Big Mac, you've just described yourself to a 'T', and if Donkey retired (through ill health I believe) at 53 whats your point? or are you jealous that you have to keep working? [/quote] Middle class, schoolboy lefties, the class of 1968, looking down their noses at ordinary people. It's over Doug. The era of the bloated state pushing people around, and giving very poor value for money is finished. Power to the people, I really believe that. Power to the people and get rid of the man from Whitehall, and the politician on the Gravy train. Let people organise their own lives and get the state off their backs!
doug@homefarm wrote:
'Like so many of your kind, ie, white, middle-class, you have no idea what racism is. You simply hijack a serious social problem to make cheap, miguided jibes and try to steal the moral high ground. Ironically, it just makes you look dim, exploitative and actually rather unpleasant.' Well Big Mac, you've just described yourself to a 'T', and if Donkey retired (through ill health I believe) at 53 whats your point? or are you jealous that you have to keep working?
Middle class, schoolboy lefties, the class of 1968, looking down their noses at ordinary people. It's over Doug. The era of the bloated state pushing people around, and giving very poor value for money is finished. Power to the people, I really believe that. Power to the people and get rid of the man from Whitehall, and the politician on the Gravy train. Let people organise their own lives and get the state off their backs!
Posted by: doug@homefarm, SN1 on 8:31am Mon 5 May 08
Power to the people, I really believe that. Power to the people and get rid of the man from Whitehall, and the politician on the Gravy train. Let people organise their own lives and get the state off their backs!
Well psaltry I have no prblem with that either. However I was never a middle class schoolboy, leftie yes. Being born before 1950 I had left school in 1968. It will no doubt ammuse you in 68 I was a longhaired hippy and proffesional musician
Power to the people, I really believe that. Power to the people and get rid of the man from Whitehall, and the politician on the Gravy train. Let people organise their own lives and get the state off their backs!
Well psaltry I have no prblem with that either. However I was never a middle class schoolboy, leftie yes. Being born before 1950 I had left school in 1968. It will no doubt ammuse you in 68 I was a longhaired hippy and proffesional musician
Posted by: Donkey, Swindon on 11:56am Mon 5 May 08
Hey Doug, I too was semi-pro musician in those days, from about 1967 onwards ... until collapsing in a heap around 2000 ish.
Bass guitar and vocals ... long hair, droopy tash, until the barnet turned into a rather wide parting!
Those were the days ... values were specific not greed, greed, greed as it is today! Sad ain't it?
Did you play in this area very often?
Hey Doug, I too was semi-pro musician in those days, from about 1967 onwards ... until collapsing in a heap around 2000 ish.
Bass guitar and vocals ... long hair, droopy tash, until the barnet turned into a rather wide parting!
Those were the days ... values were specific not greed, greed, greed as it is today! Sad ain't it?
Did you play in this area very often?
Posted by: Frontier(s) on 3:50pm Mon 5 May 08
Are these the kind of 'values' and 'decency' of which you refer, Donkey?
tinyurl.com/3zryvx
Time this odious criminal was ousted from power I think.
He's been encouraging people to sponge off the state and decent, hard working people from his early youth - so it's no surprise what he's done since being PM.
His quote about the welfare state is highly illuminating. Even he has no idea why it exists, can't believe it does exist but advises people to 'take advantage' of it.
The man, his party and its supporters are a disgrace.
Are these the kind of 'values' and 'decency' of which you refer, Donkey?
tinyurl.com/3zryvx
Time this odious criminal was ousted from power I think.
He's been encouraging people to sponge off the state and decent, hard working people from his early youth - so it's no surprise what he's done since being PM.
His quote about the welfare state is highly illuminating. Even he has no idea why it exists, can't believe it does exist but advises people to 'take advantage' of it.
The man, his party and its supporters are a disgrace.
Posted by: Frontier(s) on 3:52pm Mon 5 May 08
And before Doug reads that article and actually admires it, you do realise that your smugly Stalinist ideals actually involve encouraging people to steal from you yourself, along with every other tax payer in the country, don't you?
How ridiculous can you get??
And before Doug reads that article and actually admires it, you do realise that your smugly Stalinist ideals actually involve encouraging people to steal from you yourself, along with every other tax payer in the country, don't you?
How ridiculous can you get??
Posted by: Tony Hillier, Old Walcot on 3:54pm Mon 5 May 08
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Discussion Presenter Posted by: doug@homefarm, SN1 on 6:45pm Mon 5 May 08
Hi Donkey and fraternal May Day greetings to you and yours, I was a sarf london boy in those days, didn't come to Swindon until '74 at which time, for various reasons I stopped playing. Did a support tour with the Small Faces which was great fun, and turned down a bloke called Steve Nice as a singer for the band as i thought he was crap. He changed his name to Harley a few years later. Great days, I had waist length hair, weighed 9 and half stone and most of my life in front of me. Now I'm 18 stone balding and over half my life behind me.
I can't be arsed to respond to Big Mac, why do think he's changed his name?
Hi Donkey and fraternal May Day greetings to you and yours, I was a sarf london boy in those days, didn't come to Swindon until '74 at which time, for various reasons I stopped playing. Did a support tour with the Small Faces which was great fun, and turned down a bloke called Steve Nice as a singer for the band as i thought he was crap. He changed his name to Harley a few years later. Great days, I had waist length hair, weighed 9 and half stone and most of my life in front of me. Now I'm 18 stone balding and over half my life behind me.
I can't be arsed to respond to Big Mac, why do think he's changed his name?
Posted by: Robert Feal-Martinez, Swindon on 7:47pm Mon 5 May 08
Tony Hillier, discussion presenter, so you want to talk politics, but the station apparently didn't. I volunteered at the outset but got an initial reply then nothing. Oh I forgot one of the presenters and sponsors is a Conservative. Free Community Radio, for Swindon, NOT.
Tony Hillier, discussion presenter, so you want to talk politics, but the station apparently didn't. I volunteered at the outset but got an initial reply then nothing. Oh I forgot one of the presenters and sponsors is a Conservative. Free Community Radio, for Swindon, NOT.
Posted by: Robert Feal-Martinez, Swindon on 7:52pm Mon 5 May 08
Doug amazing life we lead, I too had hair. My wife thought I looked like Peter Noon. I had a super dooper dooper, Lambretta with lots of chrome and spot lights, fell asleep at parties listening to Leonard Cohen (God that man could make a Nun commit suicide.) Those were the days, then we grow up. Well some of us do.
Doug amazing life we lead, I too had hair. My wife thought I looked like Peter Noon. I had a super dooper dooper, Lambretta with lots of chrome and spot lights, fell asleep at parties listening to Leonard Cohen (God that man could make a Nun commit suicide.) Those were the days, then we grow up. Well some of us do.
Posted by: Donkey, Swindon on 8:16pm Mon 5 May 08
Hello Doug ... I think two words urged a new alias ... Website and Libel from our arch enemy of the people!
Yes, indeed, our old friend and hard fought for BH ... May Day!! Greetings to you and yours also, indeed!
Nice to know that you were a musician of such high standing ... me, I did almost a thousand gigs in and around these parts over ...'Donkey's Years ... it seemed'! My final one was at my second wedding reception in 2003, with my good friend on guitar, a son-in-law doing a song or two and our own worst enemies, the backing tracks and a drum machine for company!
Most of the regular clubs and other venues have now sadly closed or been converted, though ... such a shame!
Hello Doug ... I think two words urged a new alias ... Website and Libel from our arch enemy of the people!
Yes, indeed, our old friend and hard fought for BH ... May Day!! Greetings to you and yours also, indeed!
Nice to know that you were a musician of such high standing ... me, I did almost a thousand gigs in and around these parts over ...'Donkey's Years ... it seemed'! My final one was at my second wedding reception in 2003, with my good friend on guitar, a son-in-law doing a song or two and our own worst enemies, the backing tracks and a drum machine for company!
Most of the regular clubs and other venues have now sadly closed or been converted, though ... such a shame!
Posted by: Tony Hillier, Old Walcot on 10:04pm Mon 5 May 08
Tomorrow is another day RF-L
Phone the studio to record your comments or book a place in the studio discussion.
You are welcome on the programme.
Tony
Tomorrow is another day RF-L
Phone the studio to record your comments or book a place in the studio discussion.
You are welcome on the programme.
Tony
Posted by: Frontier(s) on 12:19am Tue 6 May 08
Wrong again, Donkey. I know you're currently obsessed with the notion of libel but it was simply a case of forgotten/lost password that prompted the change.
BTW, you might like to remember what libel actually is when you so merrily throw terms like 'racist' around.
Doug, no surprise that you 'can't be arsed' to defend yourself. You're a self proclaimed Stalinist, it's impossible for you to defend yourself.
You two do have such strange and warped ideas. I am ALL for the people, it's you two who seem committed to handing all power to the arrogant elite of the State - ie, those who will NEVER have the people's best interests at heart.
Wrong again, Donkey. I know you're currently obsessed with the notion of libel but it was simply a case of forgotten/lost password that prompted the change.
BTW, you might like to remember what libel actually is when you so merrily throw terms like 'racist' around.
Doug, no surprise that you 'can't be arsed' to defend yourself. You're a self proclaimed Stalinist, it's impossible for you to defend yourself.
You two do have such strange and warped ideas. I am ALL for the people, it's you two who seem committed to handing all power to the arrogant elite of the State - ie, those who will NEVER have the people's best interests at heart.
Posted by: doug@homefarm, SN1 on 7:26am Tue 6 May 08
Doug, no surprise that you 'can't be arsed' to defend yourself. You're a self proclaimed Stalinist, it's impossible for you to defend yourself.
Sorry Big mac< I know what your referring to but I never said what you accuse me of. By the way if you forget your pass word then you type in the forgotten box and the adver tells you what it was. There is no need to change your identity unless you have another agenda!
Doug, no surprise that you 'can't be arsed' to defend yourself. You're a self proclaimed Stalinist, it's impossible for you to defend yourself.
Sorry Big mac< I know what your referring to but I never said what you accuse me of. By the way if you forget your pass word then you type in the forgotten box and the adver tells you what it was. There is no need to change your identity unless you have another agenda!
Posted by: Donkey, Swindon on 10:05am Tue 6 May 08
Big Mc implied ... "BTW, you might like to remember what libel actually is when you so merrily throw terms like 'racist' around."
Not true ... check any of my posts ... I do not use that word!
Big Mc implied ... "BTW, you might like to remember what libel actually is when you so merrily throw terms like 'racist' around."
Not true ... check any of my posts ... I do not use that word!
Posted by: Robert Feal-Martinez, Swindon on 10:35am Tue 6 May 08
Now Now Children
Posted by: Frontier(s) on 3:37pm Tue 6 May 08
[quote][bold]Donkey[/bold] wrote:
Big Mc implied ... "BTW, you might like to remember what libel actually is when you so merrily throw terms like 'racist' around."
Not true ... check any of my posts ... I do not use that word!
[/quote] I didn't 'imply' anything, I specifically said that you have called people 'racist'.
Although, for reasons best known to yourself, you use the term 'racialist'.
Like so many lefties, you use the term in any and all discussions that involve anyone or anything that's different to you in a feeble attempt to 'win' the argument.
You also claim that anyone who doesn't fall into line with your left-wing socialist agenda is 'nasty' or a 'Tory'.
You then have the audacity to call others 'bigots'!
And when anyone dares point this out to you, you fall back to your other charming little trick of pretending to play the victim.
While I rarely agree with your comments or views, I value your contributions - it's just a same you don't learn some adult debating techniques. I'm sure it would help make your views seem less outdated and naive.
Donkey wrote:
Big Mc implied ... "BTW, you might like to remember what libel actually is when you so merrily throw terms like 'racist' around."
Not true ... check any of my posts ... I do not use that word!
I didn't 'imply' anything, I specifically said that you have called people 'racist'.
Although, for reasons best known to yourself, you use the term 'racialist'.
Like so many lefties, you use the term in any and all discussions that involve anyone or anything that's different to you in a feeble attempt to 'win' the argument.
You also claim that anyone who doesn't fall into line with your left-wing socialist agenda is 'nasty' or a 'Tory'.
You then have the audacity to call others 'bigots'!
And when anyone dares point this out to you, you fall back to your other charming little trick of pretending to play the victim.
While I rarely agree with your comments or views, I value your contributions - it's just a same you don't learn some adult debating techniques. I'm sure it would help make your views seem less outdated and naive.
Posted by: Donkey, Swindon on 9:31am Wed 7 May 08
Big Frontier, obviously does not read his own posts!
I will say something in my 'victim' role, to which you often refer ...
In society, all manner of educational levels are reached ... whilst not having a doctorate in the English language, I am as entitled as anyone else to put my opinion in whichever way my academic prowess, or lack of determines.
I do admire some of the, very well researched, responses from some extremely intelligent sources on here, and it has to be said, there is much to learn from every commentator.
The differences between views are what makes the spice of life ... some object to Tony Hillier's poetry, in fact he lambasted one of my rhymes on one occasion, but everyone is an acquired taste, be it sweet or acid!
Big Frontier, obviously does not read his own posts!
I will say something in my 'victim' role, to which you often refer ...
In society, all manner of educational levels are reached ... whilst not having a doctorate in the English language, I am as entitled as anyone else to put my opinion in whichever way my academic prowess, or lack of determines.
I do admire some of the, very well researched, responses from some extremely intelligent sources on here, and it has to be said, there is much to learn from every commentator.
The differences between views are what makes the spice of life ... some object to Tony Hillier's poetry, in fact he lambasted one of my rhymes on one occasion, but everyone is an acquired taste, be it sweet or acid!
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